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The Koonin-Dessler Debate – Watts Up With That?


By Andy Might

The talk I introduced right here between Steve Koonin and Andy Dessler befell Monday August fifteenth, it was very instructional and illuminating. I’ll try to write extra about it in a couple of days.

In brief Andy Dessler mentioned that financial fashions counsel that local weather change is a damaging for human civilization and never constructive in any respect. However he averted placing any numbers to this assertion.

Dessler believes that wind and photo voltaic produce electrical energy cheaper than fossil fuels, and that they will present most of our energy. Koonin counters that the one purpose wind and photo voltaic are cheaper is that the price of fossil gas backup and the required adjustments to the U.S. grid will not be included within the photo voltaic and wind prices. Koonin exhibits an estimate of $2.4 trillion to improve our electrical grid to work with largely wind and photo voltaic.

Koonin said that the prices of local weather change are minimal, and in 100 years won’t be noticeable as a result of the world financial system will develop a lot in that point. Local weather change, even within the worse situations, solely reduces financial development very barely, by 4% or much less, and everybody will nonetheless be higher off. He notes that previously world warming and local weather change have benefited mankind since individuals are significantly better off immediately, and far more resilient to local weather change, than 100 years in the past. He additionally factors out that the poor of immediately shouldn’t be made to endure as a result of the elites (that’s the U.S. and the western world) consider, with out proof and solely based mostly on fashions, that fossil fuels are polluting or harmful. He provides that photo voltaic and wind will not be air pollution free.

Koonin quotes U.S. economist Anthony Downes, who as soon as mentioned:

“The elite’s environmental deterioration is usually the frequent man’s improved way of life.”

From “Up and down with ecology- the ‘challenge consideration cycle,’” by Anthony Downs (hyperlink)

On the finish of this very fascinating Oxford-style debate within the New York Sheen Heart, these had been the outcomes:

Dessler Koonin Debate Outcomes

Clearly Koonin received, the swing was 25% in his favor. Allow us to hope that these outcomes will not be modified on-line like they had been within the final huge local weather change debate.

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